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Patrick Collison: Why Silicon Valley's most talented should leave
- Collison says entrepreneurs are held in too high regard.
- He thinks San Francisco doesn't encourage deep technical depth.
- He believes most products and businesses can be done much better.
- He says Stripe now carries so much of the economy that it is terrified of outages.
- He wants Stripe staff to think in multi-decade abstractions.
Why does Patrick Collison think some talented people shouldn't go to San Francisco?
He says entrepreneurs are held in excessively high regard and San Francisco doesn't really encourage deep technical depth. For some people in their 20s, working inside a top lab or company where they see how experts actually do the work could be more valuable than starting a company right away.
Actionable
- Spend time learning from the best in your field before rushing to start.
- Pick one product you use and list how it could be much better.
- Plan the systems you build to last for decades.
- Write down your most important reliability risk.
Lessons
- Depth matters more than status.
- Most things can be improved.
- Reliability is a feature.
- Long-term design pays off.
Quick answer
Patrick Collison sat down with Dwarkesh Patel for this interview, published Feb 21, 2024. Here's our summary in our own words: a verdict, the answer to the big question, 5 takeaways, Actionable and Lessons tabs, then the stories, frameworks and how to use them.
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Watch on YouTube: Patrick Collison: Why Silicon Valley's most talented should leave
Channel: Dwarkesh Patel. Published Feb 21, 2024. About 116 minutes.
Who is Patrick Collison?
Patrick Collison co-founded Stripe with his brother John in 2010. They grew up in Ireland.
This is a long episode of the Dwarkesh Podcast.
Key stories from the interview
- He explains his view on young people and San Francisco.
- He talks about NASA's results not matching its budget growth.
- He discusses how AI and autonomous payments might change commerce.
- He compares Stripe to studying why some countries grow, like Ireland.
Frameworks and ideas
- Technical depth: learn in top labs.
- Moats are overrated: build better products.
- Multi-decade abstractions: design for the long run.
- GDP of the internet: grow online commerce.
In their words (paraphrased)
- Entrepreneurs are held in excessively high regard in my view.
- Products and most businesses, things can just be done much better.
- Makes us like really terrified of outages.
How to apply this
- Write down one area where you'd like deep skill and a place to build it.
- Pick one weak product in your work and sketch a much better version.
- List what in your system needs to still work in ten years.
A note on this summary
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FAQ: questions people ask
Why does Patrick Collison say some people shouldn't go to San Francisco?
He says it doesn't encourage deep technical depth, and entrepreneurs are overrated.
Why is Stripe so focused on reliability?
Collison says the volume running through Stripe makes outages very costly for its users.
Is the Patrick Collison Dwarkesh interview worth watching?
Some value given. Rich but sprawling.
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